Impetus- anyone playing

[demmerson]

Found this review and it sounds intriguing.  Anyone played the set?

http://www.rebelpublishing.net/content/Impetus_Review.pdf

[Kindred]

Dean,

  Impetus has some good reviews. I downloaded the free rules (basic) and skimmed them over. 

  It's sort of a DBA-style game, without all the anal rules and poor wording/editing that Barker is famous for.

  I may give it a shot sometime. One of the things that I don't like about it is that each stand or "element" is a separate unit. There are no figure casualties removed.  It's also designed around a point sytem and element classification and primarily intended for the tournament scene, and 1V1 gaming.

   Having said that, it has a large following, is pretty straightforward and easy to comprehend.

    One drawback for English speakers is getting used to the troop classification abbreviations, since they are derived from the Italian words.  But once everyone's on the same page, it becomes a minor quibble.

     A good description, I believe, was from a fellow who said it was not unlike an ancients version of "Volley & Bayonet".

     I'm more than willing to play it, I just don't have the time at the moment..

[demmerson]

Ugh.  I am not a fan of one stand equals a whole unit most of the time, especially in 25mm.  I hated V&B.  Alright, guess I'll wait to find someone running it at a convention before I buy anything.  Thanks!

[Kindred]

Dean,,

   If you go to the Impetus site,  you can download the free version and try out the mechanics, etc.  A ;ot of folks just play with the simplified rules, and find it a good game. 

   Eventually, I plan to build a couple armies for this system, but that's probably a good several months off, what with the large project currently scheduled, and other smaller ones to finish up.

   Like anyone ever really finishes an army...   

[demmerson]

The rules review sounded intriguing.  Who knows, I'll try it out at some point.

Now that I have a painting table set up I am finally painting again.  I've been playing with the dip/wash methods but dont like how they "muddy" the fig.  I've been trying it out with a Minwax acrylic stain, thinned with Testors Acrylic airbrush thinnner and a few drops of Future wax.  Its getting better.

[MWDarkAge]

I've been playing with the dip/wash methods but dont like how they "muddy" the fig.

Are you shaking the excess "dip" off or just allowing it to dry after applying? I am interested because I plan on using the same method for shading.

Christopher

[demmerson]

Christopher,

I am removing some of the excess when its in a place I dont want it, like eye sockets.  I am noticing that sometimes the excess pools too deeply, onscuring whatever was beneath.  If the excess is just in the folds of clothing I leave it.  The real issue for me is what it does to the flesh tones across the back, chest and abdomen of the figs.  It may be that the acrylic stain just isnt as smooth as the oil based product.

[Thresher]

Dean,
I don't do the dip method, myself, but I have seen it on other figures.  It does tend to give miniatures an "antique" finish.  Have you tried using just a future wash?  I believe it is 4 parts water mixed with 1 part future to make a stock.  Then it's 25 parts stock to 1 part paint/ink to get your wash.  It will make your figures shiney, though.  So you may have to dullcoat if you don't like that look. 
For Impetus, I believe the basing is akin to Armati in that it's sort of like DBMM basing only doubled?  I have the rule book around here somewhere but can't locate it at the moment.  But I think a unit of, say, spear would be 80mm wide by 30mm deep with 16 figures for the unit.  This is for 15mm figures.   Again, I may very well be wrong but until I find the book I won't know for sure.  I will dig it out and bring it with me on 10/17 if you would like to look it over.

Ken

[demmerson]

Hi, Ken.

I have used the Future wash on vehicles with success though you are right about the bright glossy finish.  I do knock it down with matte sealer.

I'd love to check them out if you have a copy.  Thanks!

[Kindred]

  I use the Minwax Acrylic stain thinned 2:1 with distilled water (2 parts water to one part stain).  However, I brush it on with a large brush and let the minis dry. I keep a stick of foam meat trays to hand for just such uses as drying trays. When we buy chicken or beef, etc, I just wash the foam trays really well with detergent and let air dry. They are VERY handy to have around. I also have stacks of those single-serving yogurt and pudding cups. they are excellent for mixing paints, washes, and rinse water for brushes.

  respects,